The last of the old Meta and a look at the New…
Welcome to another week of 40K with big changes on the horizon. I hope you all had a great weekend and are doing well. We will first check out the events that used the old pre Dataslate and then check in on a lot of RTT data that used at least the new points. Lots of interesting results from the post Dataslate Info.
Post Dateslate DATA at the Bottom of Page.
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These events as far as I could tell based on their lists used the pre Dataslate points and rules.
Smite Club Open 2023 40K Major. Mesa, AZ. 88 players. 6 rounds.
1. Aeldari 6-0
2. Aeldari 6-0
3. Ad Mec 5-1
4. Necrons 5-1
5. Chaos Daemons 5-1
6. Aeldari 5-1
7. GSC 5-1
8. Imperial Knights 5-1
9. Grey Knights 5-1
BrewHammer Gt 4. Scotland. 42 players. 5 rounds.
1. Necrons 5-0
2. Space Wolves 5-0
3. Chaos Knights 4-1
4. Aeldari 4-1
5. Chaos Knights 4-1
6. Aeldari 4-1
7. Ad Mec 4-1
8. Aeldari 4-1
9. Aeldari 4-1
Grenoble Wargame Club. Grenoble, France. 35 players. 5 rounds.
1. Chaos Knights 5-0
2. Aeldari 4-1
3. Dark Angels 4-1
4. Guard 4-1
Tokyo Tactical World Championship Qualifier. Tokyo, Japan. 28 players. 5 rounds.
1. Custodes 5-0
2. Aeldari 4-1
3. GSC 4-1
4. Aeldari 4-1
5. Imperial Knights 4-1
BFS Grand Tournament. Engalnd. 24 players. 5 rounds.
1. Aeldari 5-0
2. Aeldari 5-0
3. Custodies 4-1
Bugle Bat Reps : Bugles Big Bash. Roche, England. 20 players. 5 rounds.
1. Drukhari 5-0
2. CSM 4-1
3. GSC 4-1
4. Tau 4-1
The three GTs that used the new points at least
Munsterland GT4. Horstmar, Germany. 33 players. 5 rounds.
All new points
1. Aeldari 5-0
2. Tau 4-1
3. Aeldari 4-1
4. Space Marines 4-1
5. Necrons 4-1
6. Chaos Knights 4-1
Twisted GT. Great Britain. 21 players. 5 rounds.
Used New Points.
1. CSM 5-0
2. Necrons 4-1
3. Necrons 4-1
ArtHobbies Pre Nacional. Merida, Mexico. 21 players. 5 rounds.
Used new points
1. Aeldari 5-0
2. Tyranids-Assimilation Swam 4-1
3. Chaos Daemons 4-1
This Weeknds full Data table(Mixed)
Faction | Subfaction | #Players | Wins | Games Played | Win% | Weekend Tournament Wins |
Chaos Knights | Index | 9 | 30 | 46 | 65% | 1 |
Aeldari | Index | 34 | 116 | 178 | 65% | 4 |
Adeptus Mechanicus | Index | 3 | 9 | 14 | 64% | 0 |
Genestealer Cult | Index | 16 | 51 | 87 | 59% | 0 |
Space Wolves | 5 | 12 | 21 | 57% | 0 | |
Chaos Space Marines | 21 | 58 | 106 | 55% | 1 | |
Adeptus Custodes | Index | 22 | 61 | 113 | 54% | 1 |
Grey Knights | Index | 6 | 17 | 32 | 53% | 0 |
Drukhari | Index | 4 | 10 | 20 | 50% | 1 |
Tyranids | Index | 18 | 43 | 87 | 49% | 0 |
Necrons | Index | 25 | 62 | 128 | 48% | 1 |
Death Guard | Index | 5 | 12 | 25 | 48% | 0 |
Imperial Knights | Index | 20 | 47 | 99 | 47% | 0 |
Blood Angels | 2 | 5 | 11 | 45% | 0 | |
Tau | Index | 13 | 33 | 73 | 45% | 0 |
Chaos Daemons | Index | 16 | 34 | 78 | 44% | 0 |
Orks | Index | 12 | 27 | 63 | 43% | 0 |
Dark Angels | 14 | 29 | 68 | 43% | 0 | |
Space Marines | 14 | 30 | 74 | 41% | 0 | |
Astra Militarum | Index | 14 | 28 | 70 | 40% | 0 |
Thousand Sons | Index | 11 | 22 | 57 | 39% | 0 |
World Eaters | Index | 8 | 15 | 39 | 38% | 0 |
Sisters of Battle | Index | 9 | 17 | 47 | 36% | 0 |
Deathwatch | 2 | 3 | 11 | 27% | 0 | |
Leagues of Votann | Index | 2 | 3 | 11 | 27% | 0 |
Black Templars | 7 | 9 | 37 | 24% | 0 | |
Total | 312 | 783 | 1595 | 9 |
What you came to see, the 3 GT’s that used the new points + 28 RTTs that had at least 10 players and also used the new points.
Look at New Dataslate numbers: AKA early days. we will know more next weekend.
Faction | Subfaction | #Players | Wins | Games Played | Weekend Win% | 10th Win% As of this weekend | Weekend Event Wins |
Drukhari | Index | 9 | 19 | 27 | 70% | 38% | 3 |
Aeldari | Index | 42 | 89 | 140 | 64% | 64% | 5 |
Leagues of Votann | Index | 13 | 26 | 41 | 63% | 31% | 3 |
Space Wolves | 11 | 21 | 35 | 60% | 41% | 0 | |
Death Guard | Index | 14 | 27 | 46 | 59% | 34% | 0 |
Black Templars | 23 | 41 | 73 | 56% | 43% | 1 | |
Tau | Index | 19 | 35 | 63 | 56% | 38% | 3 |
World Eaters | Index | 17 | 28 | 51 | 55% | 40% | 1 |
Dark Angels | 29 | 47 | 90 | 52% | 42% | 1 | |
Necrons | Index | 36 | 63 | 122 | 52% | 50% | 0 |
Chaos Space Marines | 39 | 66 | 128 | 52% | 47% | 4 | |
Tyranids | Index | 31 | 53 | 104 | 51% | 49% | 0 |
Chaos Daemons | Index | 22 | 38 | 75 | 51% | 47% | 1 |
Astra Militarum | Index | 28 | 48 | 97 | 49% | 40% | 1 |
Chaos Knights | Index | 20 | 34 | 69 | 49% | 47% | 1 |
Imperial Knights | Index | 28 | 42 | 93 | 45% | 52% | 2 |
Deathwatch | 8 | 11 | 25 | 44% | 52% | 0 | |
Adeptus Mechanicus | Index | 6 | 7 | 16 | 44% | 41% | 0 |
Genestealer Cult | Index | 13 | 20 | 46 | 43% | 61% | 1 |
Space Marines | 40 | 58 | 135 | 43% | 42% | 1 | |
Adeptus Custodes | Index | 32 | 46 | 110 | 42% | 52% | 0 |
Thousand Sons | Index | 16 | 22 | 53 | 42% | 51% | 0 |
Orks | Index | 26 | 35 | 87 | 40% | 46% | 1 |
Grey Knights | Index | 18 | 23 | 60 | 38% | 36% | 0 |
Sisters of Battle | Index | 12 | 13 | 35 | 37% | 39% | 1 |
Blood Angels | 14 | 14 | 45 | 31% | 40% | 1 | |
Total | 566 | 926 | 1866 | 31 |
3 GT’s + 28 RTTs that had at least 10 players and also used the new points.
Spicy Takeaways:
Based on this very early look and yes things will change with actually GT numbers coming in the next few weeks but I think GW has accomplished some of what they wanted with this datalsate. Is it enough? That I am unsure.
I am going to treat the Drukhari as a bit of an outlier as 3 of their 9 players won their RTTs which really helps their numbers.
Ok for LoV, Space Wolves, DG, Black Templars, Tau, World Eaters, Dark Angels and Guard there seems to be a real boost in performance. GW seems to have done enough here.
Ok the Big Aeldari in the room. They might not have moved at all which has me very concerned. Now I thought they got a big enough hit for that number to come down somwhat and it might once things settle out here in a few weekends but I am worried that the best we can hope for is that they become a 60% win rate faction, hopefully I’m wrong and they get closer to 50%.
The other factions GW hit with nerfs felt it with all 5, GSC, Custodes, 1Ksons, Imperial Knights and Deathwatch falling from their top spots, pass the mid tables this weekend and showing up here below the 45% win rate. Who can climb out of this fall? My bet is GSC.
Blood Angels, Sisters and GK might still be the worst preforming armies. With GK I think it will just take reps in as it is not an army that wants to fight which is hard to accept.
Codex SM didn’t move which is surprising to me. There seems to be play in the other SM sub factions but not much here.
While Necrons, CSM and Nids seemed to have weathered the changes still in the mid-range. Can they hold on as things shake out?
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